@ckrow said in round robin advanced:
moving up in divs should be very punishing, main should be the biggest div because that should be the div where u actually learn the gamemode, u get punished by low adv players and it helps and it weeds out the bad players who arent willing to learn further improving the gamemode and the players, this was how most mid level hl played out like season 4-7. when challenger got added 0 punishment for ppl moving up rapidly happened, because as johnny mentioned
“all that’s important to some players is the name of division they are in.”
and now that main has a stigma of being very bad and since ur not letting shit settle back in for a season, ur moving up bad main teams into adv and main continuing to have a terrible rep for being a place u dont wanna be stuck in. but idk thats my thoughts on itshoutout wize for actually acknowledging complaints and trying to figure out the situation and listening to the ppl :DD:DDD
@Xenagos said in round robin advanced:
@ckrow said in round robin advanced:
“all that’s important to some players is the name of division they are in.”
and now that main has a stigma of being very bad and since ur not letting shit settle back in for a season, ur moving up bad main teams into adv and main continuing to have a terrible rep for being a place u dont wanna be stuck in. but idk thats my thoughts on itMain used to actually be a serious div. admins need to just suck it up and put some teams in main. and deal with the TLs that are going to whine about it. All that moving teams up to advanced does is make it so that advanced is also seen as a bad div and then the only good div is invite until you do the same thing to invite that you did to main and advanced.
If you put good teams in main, then the div becomes something players want to play in again. I’ve said this discussing the topic with other people but I’d happily play in main if it meant advanced being 8 teams because imo that’s what’s best for the format and if the team I’m on can’t cut it in advanced then I guess we just have to git gud.
shoutout wize for actually acknowledging complaints and trying to figure out the situation and listening to the ppl :DD:DDD
Also yeah this is great ty wize ^^^^
Read, Acknowledged, and noted both of yours opinions.
I agree with both of your stances. I think the community needs to revive the spirit of competition a bit more again and if that requires having a season of configuring a format (that’ll stick permanently into the future) we should strive for that. I think a problem that sometimes staff has made, throughout the seasons, is created changes that require players who participate each season to have to deal with a inconsistent format. We need to change that whether it be an initiative on our end or the community requesting it.
A lot of changes are made because we try to adhere to what you guys want. It’s a balancing act that sometimes certain staff members get unnecessary attention (trolling/insults). Each season varies due season to season (a lot of our community is either starting/in college, starting post college life, or young adults) so staff tries to make changes that benefits you all. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t. Nothings perfect but we have to work together to make things better. If the community provides constructive criticism, we as staff need to provide you guys the attention you deserve so that we can work towards creating a league that’s of great quality for you and the future generations that participate within TF2s competitive scene.
At the end of the day, we play this game and participate within competitive TF2 cause we saw the older generation do what we are doing now, and it inspired us to grow and get better. A lot of us are now in the shoes/in charge of what the older generations left behind. So, we need to continue building upwards and respect/honor their work that they put in.
Appreciate the comments. I want to make sure that our players who take the time out of their day to express themselves and provide feedback get the respect, time, and attention they deserve.
I’ll be heading off here in a bit (I live on the east coast) but I will personally reply and read to every message that is posted within this forum thread while I’m gone because I need you guys to make sure we keep the spirit and heart of HL alive and bring back a bit of it too. IMO, the players are what keep this league alive. So, you deserve our upmost respect.
I invite anyone within Main, Advance, or Invite to post here and I even ask you to invite your teammates/friends. I will and want to hear you. I will acknowledge you.
-Wize