Counterpoint: ban the wrangler

You should include the poster’s name along with their avatar. Without the name, LFT posts can be very hard to read if it’s not included in the subject. See the second post in the figure below for example

@dt said in CP changes to highlander:

The same feature does not exist in 5cp, the attacking team is always putting themselves at a disadvantage, because unlike in payload they do have something to lose by taking risks

A similar feature exists in some 5cp maps–respawn time is lower if you control more points. It is true for Granary, Metalworks, Process, Snakewater, Sunshine. It’s not true for Gullywash, which has the same timer regardless of points owned. Vanguard is reversed, if you only have 1 point you have a respawn advantage

I’ve said this before, but I think you could probably reduce the propensity for stalemate in highlander by tweaking the spawn timers to give attackers greater advantages for aggressive play. Maybe also introducing disadvantages to attackers (midpoint owner) if points have not changed hands. Obviously this would require new maps and be a big departure from standard play

@Ryuk

The Podgy Spot 2

I think Galaxy should be unbanned. Dude loves the game and provided a great service to the community in Coach’s Corner

Amazing demo and maincaller

bump. Looking to play heavy

The racism post from last week was a pretty good stress test of the forum format. It performed poorly in my opinion. Posts load as you scroll to the top or bottom, so you never leave the page. It also seems the number of posts on the page at any one time is capped – as you scroll more in, the posts in the other direction fall off. This makes finding earlier posts difficult, since it makes the “find” browser function worthless. Adding to that, I found that scrolling up would roll in more than one set of posts, so I would end up navigating well past where I wanted. (This was on Edge browser)

Maybe for that thread it was a benefit to the forums, since it was entirely drama/flame. But more productive threads would benefit from a better system. I suggest a “return to tradition,” and give the threads a static partition, which you navigate by clicking a page link.

Regarding faked chat logs, there are ways to show a chat is real. You can record yourself opening Discord to show that the text has not been tampered with

@Papaya said in Addressing Racism/Anti-LGBTQ Speech on Off-Platform Media:

@Teapot If its behind closed doors then yes. RGL has no right to police what you say in a private discord.

I disagree. I think that is crossing the line between private speech and league-sanctioned speech.

@Papaya said in Addressing Racism/Anti-LGBTQ Speech on Off-Platform Media:

@Teapot They are unrelated to RGL because team discords are set up, run by, and provided by people other than RGL staff. Also how would you differentiate between a team discord and a friend discord with RGL players? There is no clear definition for a “team discord” , and because discord servers aren’t owned or operated by RGL, they don’t get a say in how to moderate them.

Suppose an RGL admin belongs to a team Discord that is filled with hate speech and racism. Those admins might play on a team with people who are racist behind closed doors. Should the league tolerate their admins turning a blind eye to that type of behavior?

@Bonesaw said in Addressing Racism/Anti-LGBTQ Speech on Off-Platform Media:

@hew said in Addressing Racism/Anti-LGBTQ Speech on Off-Platform Media:

It is within RGL’s right to ask you to conduct yourselves in a non-racist fashion even behind closed doors and it’s not a very large ask.

You say this but offer no real reason why RGL should be, at all, concerned about how a player acts behind closed doors given that their behavior isn’t inflicting harm on another person or player. It is their job to be a video game league, not the moral police of all TF2 players in all walks of their life. If players like randyw or Mono72 fail to uphold the conduct expectations in official channels then they should be banned for those offenses. No one is saying that you should not be able to be banned for hate speech, merely that RGL ultimately has no reason to ban players for speech and servers which are, at best, tangentially related to RGL .

Team Discords are clearly related to RGL. Disingenuous to suggest they’re not even tangentially related when they wouldn’t exist otherwise

@Kawaiyi He’s on your side though?

@Papaya said in Addressing Racism/Anti-LGBTQ Speech on Off-Platform Media:

@Teapot Are you seriously trying to discredit people’s valid opinions based on flimsy to 0 evidence? What does him having the German flag on discord have anything to do with what he is actually saying? To me it is clear that you chose to attack the person because you don’t actually have a rebuttal to their arguments.

The guy whose other Discord tag is “ᛋ Right-Wing Death Squad ᛋ”. Yeah, I’m sure it’s a total coincidence. Just an innocent Deutschophile