Reporting people for stuff said in a private discord is so stupid and is just gonna stop people from wanting to play RGL. What is even more ridiculous is asking for permanent bans for slurs. “Hate speech” is free speech and making any other distinction is a very dangerous path towards just banning wrongthink.

I think that private discords are exactly that, private. What happens in them stays in them. Who really gives a shit if a couple of basement dwellers decide to say a couple gamer words in a private discord? How would you even find out unless you are actively searching for those gamer words? I mean come on, people have a freedom to say what they want in explicitly private groups.

I even hold the personal belief that you should be able to say the n-word and such in-game, since in the end its just a word, granted you aren’t using it as a slur and just a replacement for the word “dude” or anything casual like that. But do I really care? Not really. In the end its just a word, any power it holds over you is only because you let it hold that power of you.

The current rules are absolutely fine. The vast majority of people do not care about some people in private discords saying some funny words or whatever, and this is just stepping wayyyy over those boundaries of encroaching on free speech.

To the original poster of this and whoever agrees with him (and I do not mean this as an insult or anything of the sort): grow thicker skin. Stop letting things that barely affect you hold power over you, and you will both have a better time in RGL and in real life.

Have a good day everyone.

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@cyclowns Yes, that forum is private. Pug discords are private. Team chat channels are private too. Anything that is officially run by RGL is public I’d say.

@cyclowns RGL scrims are moderated because, I imagine, they are official RGL scrims taking place between RGL teams. A notable yet fair exemption to that rule.

@cyclowns I agree with this. Let’s put it to a vote. See how many people would actually support such an overreach like policing private discords. I guarantee the amount of people supporting this would get pummeled by the amount of people voting “no”.

Then maybe afterwards we can have a vote to relax slur restrictions. After all, they are just words.

@nabla just block someone if they say a slur, its not hard. you dont have to see what people type

@Xenagos How so? You are restricting the speech of those in PRIVATE discords. What people say in their FREE TIME, completely separate from RGL. I understand the whole “private organization” argument, but I don’t really follow that ideology and just think it is an excuse to be able to restrict speech.

@LiaRein a shitty song that only uses buzzwords and doesn’t present any real points isn’t a valid argument. in fact im not really sure what your point is exactly.

And I’m sure he doesn’t mean slurs is the opinion himself, more so opinions like being anti-lgbt, or things like that. Or perhaps the opinion that one should have the ability to say slurs at your leisure.

@Kawaiyi hate speech is free speech and also being able to play a video game in a league isn’t a platform

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• Can auto roll captains and then let the captains move people into the pug channels themselves
• Can just autoroll the appropriate amount of people and randomize the teams, then move them into the appropriate channels.
• Can automatically move everyone out of their pug channels once the pug is over.
• Will automatically send connect and team info to all members of the pug once the pug starts (or manually with $sendinfo).
• Can send RCON commands to the appropriate TF2 server from Discord!
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week later bumparino???

@Rebel No, currently closed source.

I have had thoughts of making it open source, but I’ve never actually used github before so I’ve been putting that on the burners for now.

@tua said in Tf2 Log Searcher:

really cool features, thanks for putting in the time to do these
however, at least for the stats search, i think you forgot to remove a test print statement or something, because my names always end with cum

oh my god i did forget to remove a test print statement, thank you for telling me

@BMPD said in Tf2 Log Searcher:

this is a feature

this was certainly not a feature

New update! This one is probably the coolest/most useful feature yet!

You can now search through all your logs and have the stats put into a sortable table. You can refine your search based on classes played and gametype!

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New update! Just added functionality to search for logs that contain the SteamIDs of the players you put in!

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also the word searcher is not case sensitive anymore

@ire I’ve taken a look at stuff like this before, unfortunately it doesn’t really have it in a format that I can effectively use (or more appropriately know how to use).

my current method for chat scraping is downloading each log as a .json file (with the ID as the name) then just searching the logs for the relevant chat bits.

future plans do include downloading each log as a raw .log file for FULL information (which would enable the death heatmaps). and by future i mean like tomorrow lmao.

thank you for the info tho! ive never encountered this specific github before, only the mega link.

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• Average DPM of each class across each gamemode (and map too probably)
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@WolfTeeth said in Harassment in the RGL Community:

When our communications take place in public discords and other public spaces, blocking does nothing because they can easily use alts, or get a friend to do their screengrabbing for them. RGL banning people is good, but also I think people should be distancing themselves and saying these harassment behaviours aren’t acceptable. RGL also only focuses on behaviour on its platforms (and this isn’t a statement that the police should change, just acknowledgement) which means it’s up the community to hold up behaviours.

I don’t disagree with anything you said here necessarily. I do agree that blocking isn’t 100% effective, but its better than doing nothing at all.

@WolfTeeth said in Harassment in the RGL Community:

The other two things you listed are funny because they’re among us jokes which is pretty minor as far as jokes go. Lovecraft’s legacy is tinted with the fact that he was racist, and the reason the cat joke is funny to you is you’re tricking someone into seeing a racial slur. You may view racial slurs as just words, but you have to realize that people beyond you don’t feel that way. Tricking people into viewing something potentially upsetting is the underlying issue of toxicity.

I mean, plenty of people find many things irrationally upsetting. There are people that find holes in close proximity to another literally nauseating. I personally find needles to make me extremely uncomfortable. If someone makes me see a needle in one way or another, I just calmly tell them that that makes me uncomfortable and to not show me something like that again, and if they aren’t a dick then they will oblige. Its as simple as that in my eyes. And I might just be an abnormality, but I’ve been called slurs to my face and I personally found it funny (and disappointing they couldn’t insult me for something that would actually say something about my character). It would be nice if slurs didn’t have power over people in general, but people continue to let them hold power of themselves.

@WolfTeeth said in Harassment in the RGL Community:

4chan is not a fair comparison because that is also a terrible cesspit, and I wouldn’t post a selfie there either. On the other hand I’ve been on places on reddit, twitter, other smaller sites where people would post social selfies and…nothing bad happened. Because the mods of that community held up standards that selfies were okay, and people who made shitty comments about selfies were either removed or actively pushed aside.

I will fully admit at this point we’re probably going to start talking past each other (I also feel like you skipped over my most salient post of my last post). And my point about lovecraft’s cat was probably more antagonizing than it needed to be, though I genuinely to believe that a causal attitude towards slurs is part of the problem.

Please just consider how others feel about this stuff. Ultimately I’m not pushing back because I think you are a bad person or some shit, I want to convince people there is a real problem, and real change can happen.

This is more for the whole thread but if you see something say something. try to confront people on toxic behaviour, or try to support them learning to undo toxic behaviour. and yes, I mean you whoever is reading this right now. change can happen if we work on it.

maybe 4chan was a bad example, that’s a fair point. But it still definitely happens on reddit, or literally any part of the internet. I didn’t mean to talk past you and I try to address everything you said but sometimes I miss shit cause i can be a little scatterbrained cause of mental health shit sometimes lol.

and some friends did inform me that I came across as a victim blamer in this thread and I absolutely did not mean to do so and I’m sorry if I did. I was just trying to share things that have worked for me in the past when I was harassed. but it would be nice if people just didn’t do these things, but that’s an impossible goal to achieve in the end.