Sniper shouldn’t have the option to negate flames in the first place. That’s what makes the Darwin’s strong vs pyro because it shouldn’t exist in the first place. Banning all secondaries wouldn’t balanced sniper but it would at least help somewhat with nerfing the class.
Sniper shouldn’t have any secondary unlocks but that should also be another thread lol
The scorch shot splash is the size of the direct hit. I don’t care for the weapon but if scorch is banned then the det should be as well and the Darwin’s danger shield since the det is the same as the scorch but you jump a bit higher and the Darwin’s fire counter play would be too much since the spam fire weapons are gone and no longer needed.
I learned Something today, I was always under the impression it was the same splash as the DH.
@Markers said in scorch shot is gone:
Now we watch as every pyro below inv tries to use det to light the sniper on fire 24/7 while allowing the spy to farm their team. Best of luck.
To be fair medic and heavies can also turn around every once in a while and it’s does the same thing.
I have 9k on on mine 
It’s better than the shotgun at close quarters but suffers greatly at mid range which the best range for pyro so it’s worse than stock 90% of the time but it’s a upgrade over stock in that 10% of situations ie upward last.
@Markers said in scorch shot is gone:
Now we watch as every pyro below inv tries to use det to light the sniper on fire 24/7 while allowing the spy to farm their team. Best of luck.
To be fair medic and heavies can also turn around every once in a while and it’s does the same thing.
From just judging based on the pictures. The sniper is hidden vs being fully exposed in the old version.
You wouldn’t be amplifying a single issue, 95% of pyro mains can’t aim a flare gun or shotgun to save their lives and that’s why they use scorch and det so they can at least do something instead of nothing. Removing Darwin’s is like removing milk, it’s a safety net for a class that doesn’t need one. If pyros are gonna switch to det to spam the sniper full time they are just baiting themselves and their team for the same reason that you said that’s it’s not the pyros main role and they have 1,000 other roles to fulfill.
So the det=scorch then?
Might as well ban both and call it a day and take Darwin’s with it, so the pyros that can aim a flare can be rewarded.
Also why should sniper be given a option to nullify a another class by equipping a unlock. A class that’s a short range specialist vs a long range specialist. Most invite snipers can reliably hit their shots even while flinching. So it’s not like the pressure is game breaking more than annoying to play against.
Sniper shouldn’t have the option to negate flames in the first place. That’s what makes the Darwin’s strong vs pyro because it shouldn’t exist in the first place. Banning all secondaries wouldn’t balanced sniper but it would at least help somewhat with nerfing the class.