@Potch Okay you realize the ammo and the charge shot have a timer right? It’s really not that hard to avoid the choke spam, I never once got fucked in choke specifically by the cow mangler when I was in Open. The only thing OP about the cow mangler is the charge shot sacking and easy forces on bad medics/teams if you hit it. It has 0 difference in choke spam than a regular rocket launcher. Especially if a soldier decides to charge the choke then he has 0 ammo to spam. If you get owned by cowmangler spam you are gonna get owned by any other rl spam, tell your flank to get in or exchange.
I’m speaking from experience for all the weapons I talked about, Cow Mangler, PBPP, and Rescue Ranger (except whip obv) had 0 negative effects on my experience to play the game. I just think more unlocks can help the game and deserve another test such as in a cup. I would understand not unbanning them for a whole season.
You say demo is at its weakest point in the game when you can say that about soldiers too lol. Honestly, soldier is more at a weaker point than demo, why do you think etf2l voted for always gunboats rule? Demo legit has a direct upgrade as a primary (if you have no clue the projectile physically is a bigger hitbox and it moves in a more predictable pattern while rolling better than pills). Anyone educated knows the iron bomber isn’t a preference, its an upgrade lol.
And if you don’t like Specialist classes suck it up, we have been playing the game the same way for over 10 years now it deserves to be different or the game is just going to continue to stagnant. I rather see a heavy to mid than play and counter the same tactics I have been since I was 15.
Also if you think the market garden is hype I was hype when I saw a soldier get rewarded for good timing and positioning against a bad team with his charge shot. But you seem to be more interested in the one shot kill weapon that you can’t counter if he knows how to do a skip jump.