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    • 76561198144803525
      snoozyjune RGL.gg last edited by 76561198144803525

      High ping isn’t just a benefit. You don’t just get goofy shit without any downside, like, cuz of the high ping that player has to change so much of how they’re playing due to their reactions being forced to be slower. It’s more of altering the game state giving them weird benefits/downsides. Like the sniper on my team for example (mujet) has 150 ping. Which can allow him to hit people behind walls occasionally and goofy shit like that but it’s a lot harder to hold angles due to having a strictly slower reaction speed. Stuff like that, I can understand how it can be frustrating but it’s like by no means just a straight upgrade over playing the game with low or average ping. Like those clips seem bullshit but then you remember the spy has to play the game constantly just strictly being slower to react to literally anything, there’s a lot of ways that can fuck them over. In terms of aim, movement, even their stabs can fucked over cuz of high ping. It’s not like you will always get those goofy backstabs sometimes you’ll get goofy ass stabs that should be backstabs (at least visually) but since you have high ping and the server processes those stabs server side it’ll just be a butter knife.

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      • Illegal
        Illegal RGL.gg last edited by

        coming from someone who has played spy in multiple regions outside of NA. Spy with high ping is a literal disadvantage. Just play more

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        • Muffin
          Muffin RGL.gg @76561198144803525 last edited by

          @snoozyjune I’d agree that it isn’t a straight upgrade but my biggest gripe having to play against players with constant high ping is that laggy fights like that just aren’t really fun and having a laggy player pretty much forces the other team to have to deal with it. A player with high ping knows that when they play theres going to be constant lag and inconsistency and they choose to play regardless which is fine, but when you play against that you’re not really given a choice in the matter as the other player has decided for you that the fight is going to be an inconsistent mess. I’d also argue that the player with high ping has more of an advantage because they’re used to having to play like that where as the other player is forced to adapt to it.

          It doesn’t really impact me personally all that much but I can imagine it being frustrating as a sniper and seeing your match and your sniper v sniper for that week is a guy with 100 ping higher than you

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            • 76561198144803525
              snoozyjune RGL.gg @Muffin last edited by

              @Muffin Yeah I can get that frustration but it’s mainly just learning how to play against it, once you learn to play against it, it’s more of a disadvantage if anything. It’s like an annoying gimmick. Also, it would be pretty shitty to just ban anyone from out of region/has bad ping from playing so you might as well just learn how to exploit it the best you can, y’know?

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                zoom RGL.gg @Muffin last edited by zoom

                @Muffin ping makes a lot of players need to ADAPT to the high ping. This is me losing a stab, from last week on steel, bc of 150 ping i couldn’t perform a surfstab (yes, on steel).

                https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/754858044831301755/866862603338121316/MedalTVTeamFortress220210719204406_Trim.mp4

                idk where’s the idea of an “advantage” when everything that you do is delayed by 150 miliseconds

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                • 76561198096806703
                  scaredy bat RGL.gg @76561198144803525 last edited by

                  @snoozyjune said in POV: a 120 ping spy has just backstabbed your teammate:

                  Also, it would be pretty shitty to just ban anyone from out of region/has bad ping from playing so you might as well just learn how to exploit it the best you can, y’know?

                  I mean, a league could restrict all players from playing out of region or require that players with ping constantly in excess of some number be subbed out, sure. But RGL policy, especially given the recent(ish) changes to the out-of-region player rules, seems to be more about trying to serve as many players as possible without making it too dreadful for the in-region players.

                  (This is an elaboration, not a contradiction, of the post I quoted.)

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                  • 76561198049906140
                    TheS4rr RGL.gg last edited by

                    Try not getting backstabbed next time…

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                    • Illegal
                      Illegal RGL.gg @76561198049906140 last edited by

                      @TheS4rr this is so true

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                      • hypnotize
                        hypnotize RGL.gg @76561197988901502 last edited by

                        play more

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                        • TAoW Hunter
                          TAoW Hunter RGL.gg @76561197988901502 last edited by

                          @davyc

                          So, like, are you saying YOU davyc the most ultimate UGC and RGL Player who played NA Plat and RGL IM, can LAST on the U . G . C Forums??? God damn you’re amazing, truly a gifted player, too bad you let zoomed spy defeat you. Now hes the coolest kid in Spy Academy…

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                          • 76561198019206178
                            wish RGL.gg last edited by

                            I would like to see the interp of the spy in the 2nd clip, it seems like interp abuse to me

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                            • 76561198019206178
                              wish RGL.gg last edited by

                              The best high ping spy (Shido) lives in Hawaii and he doesn’t lag this bad despite getting 130 scoreboard ping

                              He also is good enough to not rely on gimmick lag stabs, but in this case, what do you expect from a player that makes trickstab videos on youtube /shrug

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                                vorboyvo RGL Highlander Staff RGL.gg @76561198019206178 last edited by

                                @wish considering OP forward tracks to xbow the spy I think the stab could be reasonable

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                                • 76561198152690088
                                  vorboyvo RGL Highlander Staff RGL.gg @Muffin last edited by

                                  @Muffin i think really the problem here is that you have to change your playstyle based on whether the player opposite you is laggy or not. that player always has high/low ping to whatever region, so they can be used to playing with said benefits/handicaps like @snoozyjune mentioned. thing is, your team’s sniper would have to change p much everything about how they take the svs based on whether the opponent is in or out of region which can be really frustrating. same as far as spies are concerned esp when dogshit netcode is involved

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                                  • 76561198251245566
                                    foosbal RGL.gg last edited by

                                    someone who plays with insane internet issues (iv played officals on some classes with 500+ ms) it is not a upside to have high ping 🙂

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                                    • pmn06
                                      pmn06 RGL.gg last edited by

                                      after watching my demo get stabbed to spy 11 times because my airblast was delayed and my airblast not working 32 times in SA GF it is the furthest thing from an advantage

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                                      • TAoW Hunter
                                        TAoW Hunter RGL.gg @76561198019206178 last edited by

                                        @wish /shrug

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                                        • zoom
                                          zoom RGL.gg @76561198019206178 last edited by

                                          @wish oop he said it

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                                          • zoom
                                            zoom RGL.gg @76561198019206178 last edited by

                                            ay at least he knows i make those :S

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