RGL Discord PUGs Feedback

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  • @lay said in RGL Discord PUGs Feedback:

    let people talk in pickup waiting again 😧

    The short answer to this is no for moderation reasons.

    The long answer is that some time ago there was an incident with how people were acting in voice channels in the discord when no staff members were around. RGL has minimum standards of behaviour for the discord and various other spaces. What was happening is this standard wasn’t being maintained. This lead to sitting out being muted.

    And at this point I will fully say that pickup waiting should have been muted at the same time as sitting out, and the fact that we didn’t do that created unrealistic expectations for the community, and I’m sorry about that.

    More recently after coming off of a hiatus, we reviewed moderation stuff internally, and decided that since pickup waiting is not always moderated (much like sitting out) the mute should be applied.

    I understand that people miss talking in pickup waiting. I miss talking in pickup waiting with puggers. But I’ve looked at it from a few different angles and I think this is the most consistent solution we have right now.

  • It’d be nice to have a sticky on guidelines for newbies. Like “disable your in-voice chat and only chat through discord,” something like that. Maybe there already is one and I’ve not seen it.

  • @darzie maybe i’m lacking some context here, so apologies if that is the case. But as long as the expectation among players is that they can report inappropriate conduct in the vc, is it not fine to just let people talk? there may be a gap in time between the offense and action but local mute exists.

  • @ire The problem lies in evidence. We need to make sure our own actions are supported by reasonable evidence. Moderators hearing things vs people saying that someone said something are very different. Its very legal like, but it helps prevent un-necessary scrutiny.

  • @Psycho said in RGL Discord PUGs Feedback:

    It’d be nice to have a sticky on guidelines for newbies. Like “disable your in-voice chat and only chat through discord,” something like that. Maybe there already is one and I’ve not seen it.

    This is something that has been discussed before, and there was an early version of this written at one point. If there’s more interest I can look into finishing it. My main concerns are not wanting to overwhelm people with too much information and where exactly to put it. Pinned messages don’t always get checked but that said their probably isn’t harm offering more information if people want it.

  • Start some 6s pugs as late night PUGS. Even if I am not a 6s player, i think it can be fun.

  • If we could not play bagel that would be great. The map is boring as all hell, and all the cool shit is just not anywhere stuff actually happens

  • @narwool said in RGL Discord PUGs Feedback:

    Start some 6s pugs as late night PUGS. Even if I am not a 6s player, i think it can be fun.

    At this time we’re not hosting trad6s outside of special events.

    We’re also not hosting NR6s due to it having no upcoming seasons scheduled.

  • @Xenagos said in RGL Discord PUGs Feedback:

    If we could not play bagel that would be great. The map is boring as all hell, and all the cool shit is just not anywhere stuff actually happens

    Tossed you a discord dm link to the map feedback form (it’s also in the #pug_information channel). Posting here is fine but form makes it much easier for us to look back on. We review exp pug maps periodically.

  • Why can’t we see our ELO?

    I know a lot of people want to see their pug ELO but to be blunt, it’s not for public consumption. The ELO system is there to guide our balancing, but I wouldn’t say it’s refined where people would enjoy seeing their ELOs-the scale we use can change over time, and we also continuously adjusting ELO as how often one plays pugs may not keep up with the pace at which their skill increases. This can also lead to ELO being controversial, and simply put: if the system is working internally then I’m less concerned with how it scans publicly. I also don’t think that right now, making a palatable public ELO system is a good use of our time, when refining how pugs work is more important. It’s also worth noting our ELO system receives updates in how it functions completely, so keeping the scale updated properly would also be something that we would have to work on, when again I think there’s better uses of time.

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